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Sports Goulash
Odds and ends of Wyoming high school sports.
Week 8 Humble Pie: Tired bulldogs, missing Scouts and a Grover imitation
Posted by: Patrick Schmiedt on October 25, 2008 at 2:30AM EST

The regular season's over. So no messing around. Let's just get right to it:

First mad props to Riverside, which beat Greybull 35-21. Matt Craft ran every which way through the Buffs' defense and finished with -- are you ready? -- 294 rushing yards. Although both teams are on the road in the first round of the playoffs, this was a big win for the defending champion Rebels as they try to gain some momentum heading into the postseason.

Second mad props to Thermopolis, which knocked off Lovell. The more I think about it, the more I think that this was not a flukey win at all. Thermopolis has had a solid defense all season, and tonight that defense came up with four interceptions and generally hounded the Bulldogs' passing game into submission and left it looking sort of like this. Granted, this game didn't affect the playoff make-up that much -- Lovell's still the five seed, going to Pinedale; Thermop is still the eight seed, going to Glenrock -- but mentally, this has to be a huge lift for the Bobcats.

Third mad props to Star Valley, which knocked off Worland 14-0 and made me sad at the same time. Sad? Well, yeah. The Braves have finally started clicking. They'd be a scary team if they could have made the playoffs. But they didn't make the playoffs. And that kind of makes me sad -- because I think the Braves could be that one team no one really wanted to play in the first round.

Now, for something outside the Bighorn Basin....

Fourth mad props to Pine Bluffs, which whomped Saratoga 41-8. What took the Hornets so long? I really thought this was the year they'd break through and cause some damage in the East. And if not for a one-point loss to Lingle, they could be in the playoffs. Instead, they'll have to settle for winning the last two games of the season and find some solace in the fact that they did, eventually, find that other level they'd been waiting for all year.

Fifth mad props to Upton, which solidified a playoff spot by beating Normative Services in OT. Matt Lougee was the Bobcats' savior; he scored the game-tying touchdown with 2 minutes to go, intercepted a Wolf pass during NSI's OT possession, then scored the game-winning touchdown on Upton's subsequent drive. Only the appearance of a bear and a Webelo would have made this game any better.

Now, onto the thing everyone is waiting for anyway: the playoff shakedown.

I've posted the brackets below in a post of their own (please remember these are PROJECTED power ratings and brackets; real brackets won't be out from the WHSAA until today sometime). But there were a couple things that stuck out. First was how close the battle for the last Class 4A spot ended up. Rawlins, with a PPR (projected power rating) of 25.94, wound up with the eighth spot. Star Valley finished ninth at 25.88. And defending champ Jackson looks like it won't even get a chance to play in the postseason; the Broncs are 10th with a PPR of 25.75. (FWIW, Wheatland was 11th at 25.28). As its reward, Rawlins gets to go to play Douglas, a team that beat it 48-0 about a month ago, in the first round.

In 5A, thanks to what's probably the highest-scoring Trona Bowl in history (certainly, the highest-scoring Trona Bowl in the past 50 years, as Green River and Rock Springs combined for 88 points in the Wolves' 57-31 victory), the brackets shook out almost exactly as I thought they might. Natrona will go to Green River in the most intriguing of the first-round games. Remember, though, last year, no team was safe in the 5A first round, as three of the four home teams lost in the quarterfinals. And then Cheyenne East, the only home team to win in the first round, went on to win the title.

Class 2A shook out a bit differently due to Riverside's win and Rocky Mountain's loss to Pinedale. Riverside, Greybull and Rocky went 6-7-8 as the West Conference earned five of the eight seeds. Speaking of such, conference balance was pretty much thrown right out with the bathwater ... 3A also finished unbalanced as the East earned five of the eight seeds ... as did 5A, where the South got five of eight ... as did 1A, where the East took five of eight.

And, for once, the first-round playoff pairings do not feature a single game where the participants played against each other in Week 8. Finally.

So there you go. The playoffs start next week. Did Week 8 change your mind at all about who might be the favorites for the state titles? Comment below if you think of something relevant. :)

Projected playoff pairings are right below this post; I'll post official pairings as soon as I get them.

This week: 24-5 (83 percent). This year: 190-61 (76 percent).

Posted by patrick.schmiedt@trib.com

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(36) Comments
Posted by: Matt on October 25, 2008 12:15PM EST
The Powell at Cody game was one of the best games I've seen in awhile. It was an ugly, hardhitting game that went right down to the wire.

Posted by: Mike on October 25, 2008 12:48PM EST
I don't know if it changed my mind about anything because I still think it's Kemmerer and Glenrock in 3a. I expected Kemmerer to beat Jackson, but I have to say that the 39-0 score surprised me a little.

Posted by: murrykins on October 25, 2008 12:55PM EST
One question Pat, why is Normative Services in and not Hanna, both had one win but Hanna's win was a conference win. I guess I thought that would mean something.

Posted by: Wolverine73 on October 25, 2008 1:38PM EST
With the exception of 3A, it looks like the championship games should be conference championship rematches. In 5A, with what Gillette did to East, it should be a all North championship with Gillette/Sheridan. Don will have Sheridan ready to go, but I don't know if they have enough horses to beat them twice this year. In 4A it should be a west matchup between Cody/Powell with Cody prevailing again. 3A should be the inter-conference match up everyone has been talking about all year between Glenrock and Kemmerer. Kemmerer looks like they have played good solid ball, but all the info I've heard would favor Glenrock in that one. 2A should be an all east affair with Burns and Lusk meeting again. Friday's score suprised me and would lead me to believe Burns can win the rematch. And, finally, in 1A it should be an all west rematch between Burlington and Cokeville. Burlington got them the first time, but I think tradition prevails in this rematch, and it's Cokeville.

It will be interesting to see if some team gets hot in the playoff and tips the cart over. Good luck to everyone.

Posted by: George on October 25, 2008 6:05PM EST
Wolverine73, I think you picked the wrong side of the mountain in 4A. A Buffalo-Douglas rematch in the championship would be the game of the year

Posted by: Patrick Schmiedt on October 25, 2008 6:25PM EST
murrykins, from the note we run at the bottom of the standings:

"NOTE: Top two teams in each conference earn host seeds for the playoffs, and the next four with the best power ratings round out the postseason qualifiers."

--patrick

Posted by: Powderpro on October 25, 2008 7:18PM EST
Wolverine, I am guessing that you have not watched Big Horn or Wind River play this year. I doubt that your right in 2A.

Posted by: sports fan on October 25, 2008 7:52PM EST
This is going to be a great year for Wyoming football, I do not know how good the first round match ups will be (looks like some blow outs) but the semi finals and the championship games are going to be amazing.

Posted by: Drew D. on October 25, 2008 8:37PM EST
Pat:
Who you got in 4A?

Posted by: Hitman on October 26, 2008 12:33PM EST
Wolverine73...kemmerer in a route, they will stop glenrocks running game and i don't think glenrock can throw the ball

Posted by: Chris Gray on October 26, 2008 12:56PM EST
Well, Idon't have a horse in the race, but I would love to go to Glenrock to see them face Kemmerer in the championship. If Kemmerer can stop that running game of Glenrocks, I would have to see it with my own eyes! Not only are those running backs elite, but so is that line. And, it's not like they are just bigger & faster than everyone else, they also know how to follow their blocking & run in traffic. I would love to see the stats they cold compile if the all played the entire 48 minutes of a game! If I have my druthers, I will get to that game!

Posted by: bulldogger on October 26, 2008 8:48PM EST
kemmerer has the best rush defense in the state...

Posted by: surprised me too on October 27, 2008 9:18AM EST
Mike- Jackson turned the ball over 5 of first 6 possessions (pick 6 play #2) in their own territory and had on the 6th posession tried an fake punt and got stuffed. UGLY is the only thing I can say to describe it.

On another note...how does a 4a team who beats nobody in their class and is on a 6 game losing streak get into the playoffs? Because the 2 3a teams they beat won friday?Starvalley, wheatland and even jackson beat a 4a opponent! GOOD BYE PR! We won't miss you!

Posted by: Rangerfan on October 27, 2008 10:52AM EST
This is de ja vu all over again. Remember last year when the herders averaged 500 yards rushing and no one could stop them?!! Kemmerer held them to 110 yards and won 22-0. Also folks forget that the Ranger starters have no where even close sniffed a full 48 minute game. Now we here in K-town have our hands full and our focus on a good Mt. View team this week, but sometimes, even after years of proving others wrong, we feel a little slighted that we are assumed to be inferior to an east team. I respect the heck out of glenrock. Great program, tough schedule with some impressive wins, but last I checked my RANGERS have had a decent year also. Good luck to all in the Post season. GO RANGERS!!

Posted by: JS96 on October 27, 2008 11:13AM EST
One game at at time, but Glenrock has to prove itself againt the Rangers if we meet in the title game. What is so different from each year we beat them in the championship game? Kemmerer is the favorite, but if everyone in the state has the Rangers as the underdog, good, more fuel for our fire!!! Go Rangers, looking for 6th state title. Coach Rogers and his "D" always seem to slay the giants of the state each year when it comes to playoffs. The KR defense is set to make another title run, you see in Kemmerer we actually practice defense as well as offense, maybe the East should taken note. Defense wins championships.

Posted by: Mike on October 27, 2008 11:20AM EST
I understand your frustration Rangerfan, the East teams have always got all the press, and as you know the West teams have won a LARGE majority of the titles. I suspect that is never going to change. Coach Rogers and his Rangers will head to Glenrock for another title game and yet again everyone in the East will pick Glenrock. I predicted Kemmerer all year last year and even people in the West argued with me and told me Glenrock was better, we all know the final result. This year I do think it will be tight though. I think Glenrock is better than they were and they are at home. I noticed someone above talk about Glenrock being one dimensional and not being able to pass. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE GOOD! The power game is what makes Kemmerer great as well. Those two teams beat you up on offense and defense and it demoralizes you. I run a spread system here in Utah now and we average over 350 yards a game....the problem is we lead the state in turnovers and we are not physical. I truely believe in small school football, where most of your players are playing both ways you win by running the ball and establishing physical superiority over them. Teams that throw a lot tend to score on a lot of big plays. You get beat with a long touchdown pass and your players usually have the mentality that it's no big deal....we will get it back. When someone shoves it down your throat with a 14 play drive you start to ask yourself how you stop the machine across from you.....just my opinion. I don't know who I like in this one this year. I would bet that it will be the team that establishes their power running game. lol

Posted by: Barrel Man on October 27, 2008 12:40PM EST
Pine Bluffs had the toughest schedule in the 2A East. Starting with two Nebraska schools is a tough way to begin the season, especially since both schools would be 3A schools in Wyoming. Those two teams will never even make the playoffs in Nebraska becauase they are in Chadron's district. Kimball's basketball team went like 18-3 last year and couldn't go to the state tourney, because they couldn't get past Chadron. Pine's first five games were also the toughest in the 2A east (Kimball, Mitchell, Lusk(7-1), Burns(8-0), and Southeast(6-2). They played well late, and its a shame a team from the west is in the playoffs with 1 conference win, while PB has 2.

Posted by: rangerfan on October 27, 2008 1:15PM EST
Mike, I agree. I want in no way to sound that I am taking anything from glenrock. Great team. Two big wins over douglas and buffalo. I don't even care if people think that they are better than kemmerer, until we can prove otherwise it is a mute point. Just want a little respect for the boys in k-town. Now that being said I want to put out my vote for the winners this week. It may be a little conservative but I will take all the home teams in the first round of 3A. But it would not surprise me to see wright and lovell coming out on top. Should be some good games. GO RANGERS!! Go earn some respect!

Posted by: mike on October 27, 2008 1:40PM EST
rangerfan,
I think all the home teams this week is a good call. I don't know who will win the game between you guys and Glenrock, but I am pulling for Coach Rogers and the Rangers to win it, if the Buffs are out of course (My brother is on their staff). I love the way Glenrock runs the double wing but that Kemmerer D is nasty. The people in the East may not respect you but the people in the West do and Coach Rogers and the Rangers are a first class program in every aspect of the word. Good luck Rangers!!

Posted by: Football Fan on October 27, 2008 1:49PM EST
Just throwing my opinion out there.
2A winners will be Big Horn, Burns, Lusk, and Wind River for first round. Have not been following up on other classes but that is what i am going with.

Posted by: bigDaddy on October 27, 2008 2:07PM EST
It's weird seeing Kemmerer trying to play the no respect card. They are the defending champ. 80% of the coaches are saying they are noumber 1. Being from the east side I am not underestimating them at all, they have got to be picked as the favorite, until proven otherwise. BTW, I was at the 3A state championship game last year the score was lopsided but the stats were closer, get rid of a couple of fumbles and this was a very close game.

Posted by: BroncFan on October 27, 2008 2:57PM EST
Barrel Man,
I'm sorry that Pine didn't make the playoffs but they didn't deserve to in my opinion. I don't think Kimball would have made the 2A playoffs and Mitchell would have been 5 seed or lower. If they want to make the playoffs they need to win more games, plain and simple.

Posted by: Barrel Man on October 27, 2008 3:05PM EST
Your right, they need to win more games, but the schedule didnt help any.

On another note, Wind River better be ready to play, Lingle will be very physical like they have been all year long. The doggers are playing very well right now, and anything can happen.

Posted by: rangerfan on October 27, 2008 3:36PM EST
bigDaddy, I am glad to hear there is the respect. I believe that glenrock will not overlook kemmerer when and if we meet. There is too much of a rivalry now between these two teams, which is kind of unique because they never meet during the regular season but have had plenty of post season clashes. You are right about the game last year. Hardhitting and had that close feel of a three point ball game right up til the final buzzer. Like in many big games, a few turnovers helped one team build a lead. GO RANGERS!!

Posted by: Blake Robinson on October 27, 2008 5:19PM EST
It's really amazing how biased the news is in Wyoming. Three years ago when me and my fellow kemmerer teammates facecd Glenrock in the championship game, it was unanimously thought that Glenrock would come out the victor. Obviously this was a lack of judgement. Again last year the same people picked Glenrock over Kemmerer. Once again this was a huge lack of judgement. I like to see how you guys are putting Glenrock on such a pedistool, to the point that there offensive line is so great and they have great running backs and would want to see how much offense they can tally up in a full 48 minute game. I've watched Kemmerer play all year and have seen their starters come at as early as the middle of the second quarter and as late as the end of the third quarter. I've seen the size and skill of our offensive line as well as the skill of the backfield. How these guys aren't getting any acknowledgment is beyond me, but I expect Kemmerer to beat Glenrock. Once again I think that the high and mighty Casper Star thinking heads will once again be proven wrong.

Posted by: Kevin Williams on October 27, 2008 6:02PM EST
Went to my first Herder game this past Friday. Very impressed with the "Herd". Have not had the pleasure of seeing a Ranger game this year but whoever said that a Glenrock v. Kemmerer (alphabetical listing...not who I think is better) would be a great game is very much on track. It would be worth the trip to the "Stone" to see two great teams slug it out.

Posted by: Patrick Schmiedt on October 27, 2008 6:26PM EST
Hey Blake,

Maybe you should go back and look at our rankings. ALL YEAR LONG, preseason to now, in our 3A statewide ballots we've had Kemmerer as the No. 1 team.

If you want to play the "no respect" angle as your motivator, that's fine. More power to you. But saying you don't have the respect of the East side -- or, specifically, "the high and mighty Casper Star thinking heads" -- is complete ignorance.

By the way, who did I pick to win the 3A state championship game last year? Oh yeah, Kemmerer....

--patrick

Posted by: Ted 2A fan on October 27, 2008 7:02PM EST
Barrel Man
Riverside went 4-4 with this schedule: #1 Kemmerer8-0;#1 Big Horn 8-0; #1 Burlington 7-1; #3or 4 Windriver 7-1. The wins were against 4-4 Greybull; 3-5 Rocky Mt; 0-8 Dubios; 0-8 TR. We all have had a tough schedule.

Posted by: gtown(not glenrock) on October 27, 2008 10:38PM EST
I don't see why everyone is complaining about Kemmerer not getting any respect. Even if they don't get any respect WHO CARES. Go out and win a state championship to get that respect. It doesnt matter who thinks what of you right now.

Posted by: rangerfan on October 27, 2008 11:34PM EST
gtown--you are right on the money. nuff said about that I suppose. In the end one team will lift the trophy and that is what gets the respect. I reread a few of my posts and I ventured very close to whining a few times. sorry bout that everyone. No team wants respect handed to them--Not the number one team or the number eight team. One good thing about the high school sports, especially in wyoming, any group of kids can come out on top. Kemmerer and glenrock (although being fair, haven't heard any whining from g-rock fans on this post) can argue who is the best and yet Mt. View or Lovell have every right and chance to be lifting that trophy when Nov. 15th rolls around. Or any team in the playoffs for that matter. I remember a 4-4 big piney team that took home the hardware 2 years ago. You won't hear another peep from me about the respect issue because like gtown said, it can't solve anything until the games are played. Patrick, love the paper, the website, and appreciate your hard work. keep it coming. GO RANGERS!! Lets go beat a buffalo this weekend!!

Posted by: Hitman on October 28, 2008 9:57AM EST

if the glenrock people think that their oline is big wait until they see kemmerers up close and in person, had a chance to see the kemmerer jackson game wow..i saw glenrock when they played mtn view..they are not that big...still say kemmerer in a route

Posted by: Barrel Man on October 28, 2008 1:30PM EST
Ted, I wasn't talking about Riverside, but your right that is a tough schedule. Do you think the schedule was tough because they won the championship last year or has the schedule always been similar to that?

On another note, why is Kemmerer getting so angry about not getting any press coverage? After all they are in the middle of nowhere (no major press affiliates near them)

Posted by: 3A Football on October 28, 2008 3:37PM EST
After all of the posts I've read I am really surprised to see how upset people get when someone makes a prediction. I don't think that it comes down to respecting a team at this stage. There are favorites to win a state championship and there are underdogs. Obviously Kemmerer and Glenrock are supposed to play for a state championship, but I don't think it has been written in stone. (Let's not forget only two years ago when both Mtn. View and Tongue River were undefeated and 4-4 Big Piney hung the banner.) Blake, I think that you are showing the definition of hypocrisy by saying that people NEED to respect Kemmerer, the fact that they WILL win their championship, and not even recognize the other 7 teams that made the 3A playoffs and their chances of winning. Should the WHSAA skip the playoffs and send the banner straight to Kemmerer?

On a side note, I do think that the WHSAA should do something about Glenrock's football field. It is really surprising to me that there will most likely be 3 post season games played on that field. I hope that someone is not seriously hurt.

Posted by: stewartpedasso on October 28, 2008 3:59PM EST
like "3A Football Fan" said, nothing is set in stone. a lot of post on here automatically assume that Glenrock and Kemmerer will be playing in the championship. Mountain View is playing its best football right now. Thermopolis is starting to play tough and so is Lovell (that is when their pass game is rolling). It seems to me that people are getting hot headed. the bigger they are the harder they fall. I know for a fact that if Kemmerer lost in the playoffs it would crush every single one of them. I hope they can pull it off it off, but I can't stand everyone saying Kemmerer/Glenrock when in fact it is anyones ballgame at this point. Staring death in the face might just motivate any team to win to keep their seniors on the field for one more week.

Posted by: 4A on October 28, 2008 9:45PM EST
Wolverine.. if there is a conference rematch in 4A it will be Buffalo and Douglas, not Powell and Cody

Posted by: Ktown on October 28, 2008 9:47PM EST
It's not because a lack of press coverage that Kemmerer people are upset or feeling disrespected, It's because even after the two title wins, many people still count them out. It's the article the next morning in the paper after winning state that comments on how the turnovers helped them win, or how the other team didn't use their heads, or how the other team missed blocks. Yes all those things do help teams win games but just because the other team turns the ball over, or misses a blocking assignment, doesn't mean that won the game for you. The Kemmerer kids want to be respected and talked about for the work that they put in, the drills, the lifting, the wind sprints, and the film study. The Rangers prepare very diligently each week for all aspects of the game, they aren't just a bunch of good athletes who can play and don't have to work for, all though they have some very talented athletes.

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